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Historic designations

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Is there a reason that neither the article prose nor the infobox makes any mention that the White House is a National Historic Landmark? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris857 (talkcontribs) 09:46, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Reason behind naming White House

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When construction was finished, the porous sandstone walls were whitewashed with a mixture of lime, rice glue, casein, and lead, giving the house its familiar color and name. 223.191.33.155 (talk) 07:41, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsed navbox section for navboxes of 'Residents'

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Was thinking of creating a collapsible navbox section entitled 'Residents' which, when opened, would include the navboxes of all the presidents since Adams in chronological order, as well as the few navboxes of first ladies. This would entail listing 'White House' on all of their navboxes in existing sections (other homes of presidents and first ladies are already included on their navboxes, so this is an obvious gap in their 'homes' listing). As this will take a bit of time I wanted to run in by here first in case there is major opposition and the inclusion is reverted. Pinging CommonKnowledgeCreator, who has focused attention on U.S. presidential navboxes lately, for their viewpoint, and I'll also place a notice on the U.S. presidents Wikiproject page. Thanks for thoughts, approval/disapproval. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This addition seems obvious now, but came to mind a few minutes before posting the above when I saw Blair House correctly listed on {{Harry S. Truman}}'s navbox. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And...a technical problem. Post-NEIS at (WP:TLIMIT) says the collapsed template would be too large. Here's what I set-up but can't get it to collapse as two navboxes ('Residents '1800-1933' and 'Residents: 1933-present'). No idea why the second one won't show, it's the smaller of the two and works when it is placed above the first one, which itself then won't show. Please give the coding a look, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will go with this to work around the software problem:

Randy Kryn (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC) (separated into two navboxes, August 29, 2024[reply]

I'd added a navbox and Fram reverted in good faith. Since the White House is linked on the navboxes as a residence, and navboxes are on all of the other pages which list homes of U.S. presidents and First Ladies, do you have a major objection or is it just that it may be too large for the software. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A navbox should have a direct link to the subject, e.g. on the page of a President a navbox with all presidents, on the page of a presidential residence a navbox with all inhabitants or one with all other presidential residences: what you added though is a second-degree navbox: on the page of a residence, the navboxes for all presidents, i.e. links to many things which have no direct connection to or aren't similar to the White House. As far as I know, we normally don't add such second-degree navboxes. Fram (talk) 16:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Oppose. The White House itself is not primarily related to any individual President or First Lady since it has served as the official residence and workplace of the President since the John Adams administration. Adding the biography template of each President and First Lady to the White House article would just create template clutter in it. Among other reasons, this is why the criteria for good navigation templates in WP:NAVBOX should recommend against including articles in navigation templates that are already included in other templates unless the template would truly be incomplete by its exclusion. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Residents of presidents are included on navboxes, and the residences actually have their own article (List of residences of presidents of the United States). Many of these national leaders lived in the White House for eight years, and in Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt's case, almost 13. It was a major home for all of them (except maybe poor William Henry H.). The navboxes seem appropriate here, there is no clutter (there are actually only two navboxes). Fram, I've never heard the term second-degree navbox, these people lived in this home and this fact is reflected on their navbox. I'm surprised this has caused so much concern, but you never know on Wikipedia. Let's see if anyone else chimes in. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your reasoning is extremely poor and dishonest. You added the White House article to the biography templates rather than other editors, there are currently six navigation templates in the White House article, and it was only the residence of the President and First Lady while the President was in office and is otherwise unrelated to their lives. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. The White House link should have been added to them long ago, as a major residence of all of the U.S. presidents from John Adams forward, and I apologize for not thinking of it earlier. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]