Talk:Carisoprodol
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Should this have a reference to Brave New World, which is most likely the brand's namesake?
- I certainly think that we need to reference the fact that it is named after Soma or Soma from Brave New World. The historical and popular culture usage of the term Soma certainly has something to do with the chosen brand name for this substance. Much as we would mention Pynchon and The Crying of Lot 49 in an article on the p2p network WASTE we should mention some basic background on the brand-name, as it is the popular designation for carisoprodol. 12.218.37.174 21:32, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Rearranged a bit
[edit]Just letting everybody know I moved the material on the drug's side effects, which was inexplicably located in the History section, to the Side Effects section.
The two side effects (ataxia and somnolence) which were mentioned in list format in the original side effects section were merged into the text which was moved from the history section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.70.65 (talk) 22:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Citation really truly needed
[edit]I have never heard of methadone (!) plus carisoprodol plus diclofenac for back pain, chronic or otherwise and I would seriously doubt that it is increasing in popularity. In fact it sounds to me like an invitation to disaster. Although I do not doubt that some doctors are willing to prescribe such a cocktail and even write about it, it would be wrong to describe it as cutting edge therapy. I think this paragraph needs an authoritative reference or to be removed.Rose bartram (talk) 13:44, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
"North America"
[edit]Soma's been discontinued in Canada since 2003 (as per government drug product database). Personal experience suggests cyclobenzaprine has replaced it here. Some one might want to do some digging and tinker with the article to bring it up to date. - BalthCat (talk) 10:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
soma
[edit]The abuse is from mixing dairy products with soma..This is a little known fact that wikapedea gods might want to delete...I have advised severl doctors myself..By doing so one increases the efects five fold...just so ya'll know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.236.217 (talk) 18:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
While I and others appreciate this information, I must ask for a reference. I have searched and have come up empty. I am not calling you a liar, rather I am simply trying to confirm this. I checked Erowid as well and find ZERO mention of dairy products increasing the effect. And what exactly is this "Dairy" products? Milk? Cream? Some sort of cheese? Or what?
Frankly I rather doubt this information is correct. I have tried a variety of dairy products taken before, after, and even with the Carisoprodol. I notice ZERO difference.68.189.219.105 (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- I just posted a "reply" in ABUSE & EFFECTS-- I am vegan and do not want to step over my beliefs due to a medication that my Doctor told me to NOT TAKE on an empty stomach so I take my tablet and eat after.... Ms-queen-jane (talk) 22:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Scheduling changes
[edit]An anonymous editor has removed Pennsylvania from the list of states which had scheduled carisoprodol, shortly after I added it. I do see that there is no on-line reference, but that could be because the change is so recent. We received a bulletin of some kind in my office. I will try to locate it.Rose bartram (talk) 12:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
how much?
Effects and abuse
[edit]The drug is not marketed for anything other than muscle relaxation and analgesia. No other effects should really be claimed except with proper documentation. There is definitely no documentation offered that the drug has "dissociative" effects, and if this is, in fact, a feature contributing to abuse there is need for some very good documentation.Rose bartram (talk) 14:09, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- This drug came out in the age when condoms could only be marketed for the prevention of disease, so some things could only be hinted at by advertisers. What could they have meant by calling it "Soma," but to appeal to recreational drug users who had heard of Aldous Huxley's "Doors of Perception"? NRPanikker (talk) 14:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Effects and Abuse: Mostly on EFFECTS-- Does anyone know the difference between the silver back blister packs-- I also just read that you can take the medicine on a full stomach which is not what my doctor said to do-- some clarity here would be helpful as I am rx'd and used to getting the silver back blisters, however this time I received white and do not want to take anything harmful. Ms-queen-jane (talk) 22:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone is going to provide medical advice. Your best bet is to read the package insert with your prescription if one was provided. Barring that, speak to the pharmacy that filled your prescription. Barring that, I would suggest you speak to your prescribing doctor directly. Kimen8 (talk) 23:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
History
[edit]Frank Berger expected an antiseptic by addition of an isopropyl group to meprobamate? Why should he do so? Can't believe that. --FK1954 (talk) 16:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- "Antiseptic" seems to have been in the article from the beginning. Might they have meant to say "antispasmodic" or "antispastic," as that is what they actually found?
- The other notable thing about this drug (marketed as "Carisoma" in the UK) is the use of what came to be known as "The Ashworth Scale" to measure spasticity in an early clinical trial reported by the late Dr Bryan Ashworth. NRPanikker (talk) 17:48, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- I went ahead and removed the mention of "antiseptic" from the "History" section as it seems like an error and it mildly contradicted the rest of the text. (Was the primary goal in Frank Berger's research to develop a novel CNS depressant or an antiseptic? CNS depressant seems like the obvious choice, which the other source also supports.) Sadly, the original source does not appear to have been digitized, so checking it seems like a stretch. Beanyor (talk) 09:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Citation for Euphoria
[edit]I was a barbiturate addict for over twelve years including drugs like Miltown, Chloral Hydrate, etc. Please cite your sources regarding the euphoria side effects. I took Miltown and Soma, Meprobamate is far more abusable hence it's scheduling in the 70s though abuse was known during the 1950s. Carisoprodol wasn't schedule until years later due to it still being around after Meprobamate was replaced by benzodiazepines. Soma is weak and even if initial effects are "intense" it's extremely short lived and fleeting. It's nowhere near as physically addicting or dangerous as Meprobamate including in overdose. Meprobamate produces longer lasting euphoria of the barbiturate type, Soma produces a very short lived feeling of euphoria that doesn't happen for everyone and is extremely inconsistent.
Incorrect citation
[edit]In overdose section citation 28 is incorrect. Article linked says they didnt know what happened. There is an article that does say she od from those medications but when I tried to link it I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. It had missing info so I didnt want to publish it. 2600:1702:2A70:F820:28FD:32FF:20C1:1CA0 (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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