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August 3

Boobapedia

I was trying to find sources for the Booba (show) article but I suddenly found Boobapedia, is this counted as a reliable source and is it related to MediaWiki of some sort? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 10:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

@TheNuggeteer That's a Wiki, so no. Its "about" page makes it clear that any user can add content. Its the same reason that you can't cite Wikipedia as a reliable source. If that website itself cites sources, then you can sometimes use these after checking they are valid. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

That website runs on the MediaWiki software, same as Wikipedia and all other Wikimedia projects. It's... not the least confusing nomenclature. Folly Mox (talk) 11:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

When will be my wikipage shown on Google SERP?

I have created a wikipage ie Indapur, Raigad on 26th July 2024. This page is visible on wikipedia, but not on Google search result. The current Assessment status is shown Unknown. Pranay030 (talk) 11:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pranay030 Articles are not indexed by search engines until reviewed by the New pages patrol, or until they have been in mainspace for 90 days. NPP is heavily backlogged at present, as you will see from the link. If you had used the WP:AfC process, the article would have been marked as reviewed when accepted. Some experienced editors are WP:Autopatrolled. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pranay030: You should add it to Template:Raigad district. It wil make it easier to find for Wikipedia users, and also search engines when we allow it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

How to deal with the inconsistencies in Security Council membership maps

I'm trying to fix problems in the series of images UNSC <year>.svg (e.g. File:UNSC 2023.svg), and I'm not sure how best to go about it. These images show the UN Security Council membership in a given year on a world map. There’s one for each year going back to 1967. (The ones before 2010 have different names.) I want to make the following improvements:

• Disputed territories are treated inconsistently. Some maps show Taiwan as part of China (e.g. File:UNSC 2022.svg), some don't (e.g. File:UNSC 2023.svg); some show Crimea as part of Russia (e.g. File:UNSC 2022.svg), some don't (e.g. File:UNSC 2023.svg). IMHO, the maps should follow UN practice, which is to treat Taiwan as part of China but to reject Russia's claim to Crimea; but whatever they show, it should be consistent across the years.
• Nominal file sizes differ. Some maps specify 2,754 × 1,398 pixels (e.g. File:UNSC 2023.svg), some 1,104 × 566 pixels (e.g. File:UNSC 2020.svg), some 940 × 415 pixels (e.g. File:UNSC 2011.svg).
• Correlated with the different nominal sizes are slight graphical differences. The smaller maps use a lighter shade of gray and draw the map border either more strongly or not at all.
• The maps were apparently coloured using Inkscape, dispersing lots of changes throughout the file. That makes it unnecessarily difficult to assess what’s being coloured and to change it consistently. It would be much preferable to just have two CSS styles at the top, for permanent and non-permanent members, so that for instance a decision on the treatment of disputed territories could easily be applied to all the maps by a simple one-line change using a text editor or shell script.

The maps File:UNSC 2024.svg and File:UNSC 2025.svg were missing; I created them based on File:BlankMap-World.svg, using simple CSS styles at the top and following UN practice (as described above). I have a script that can automatically generate these for all years. I also wanted to upload new versions of the existing maps but then realized that I don’t have permission to do that and that it might not conform with commons:COM:OVERWRITE ("Changes to a file that are likely to be contested should be uploaded to a separate filename" – I guess changing the treatment of disputed territories might be contested). But uploading these new maps to separate filenames seems like a bad solution. I’m in the process of standardizing the infoboxes of the articles on Security Council elections (which use these maps) using templates (see e.g. 2022 United Nations Security Council election). When I’m done with that, switching to a different series of filenames would be a simple change in the template. But these maps are also used in other projects – about three uses per map on average (e.g. File:UNSC_2019.svg#globalusage). Those would remain inconsistent; or, if all those uses were switched to the new files, the effect would be the same as overwriting the old files, just with a lot more work. There must be some other way to fix something like this than to engage in discussions in a dozen different language projects until there’s a consensus for the change in all of them. Would it be an option to overwrite the files and leave messages in the other projects about the change so they can restore the previous version if they don’t agree with the change? Any advice on how to proceed would be much appreciated. Joriki (talk) 11:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm commenting less because I have any specifically useful knowledge but mostly because no one else has. I'd suggest bringing this up on WP:MAPS, that seems to be in their wheelhouse. And you probably could find the original uploaders of some of the earlier ones and contact them.Naraht (talk) 13:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Technology

I want to create a robot 41.113.102.238 (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Assuming you are referring to a Wikipedia editing bot, you will first need to create an account, then carefully read Wikipedia:Bots and Help:Creating a bot. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia Information and Subject Pages

How does one request the addition of, or create content to be added to Wikipedia? Info requested would be biographical and career related in nature for a well known, previously published and promoted artist that passed away in 2022. It appears from the FAQ that I can create a page based on previously available and quotable info. How best to begin?

thank you. AGBRUNO58 (talk) 15:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Anybody may create an article in Wikipedia; but My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.

Creating an article begins with finding suitable sources to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability: if such sources do not exist, then attempting to create an article about the person will be a waste of everybody's time. Note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Mistakes in the article Notes on Muscovite Affairs

The article contains several notable errors, which I corrected, but my corrections were not accepted and I was warned that my actions could damage the content of the article. I was directed to the article's talk page to discuss my comments, but no one responded to my request. All errors remain in the article:

1. The article declares that Muscovy was one of the states into which Kyivan Rus broke up. This statement is false. Leaving the name "Kyivvan Rus", which appeared only in the 19th century, out of parentheses, I should note that the disintegration of Rus' dates back to the 11th century, while the first mention of Moscow dates back to 1147 - the 12th century. Moreover, the Muscovite State did not exist then. The Muscovite state emerged in the 13th century and strengthened during Horde rule. 2. Herberstein distinguished the concept of Russia (to which he attributed the territory of the former Rus' - modern Ukraine - within the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Crown of Poland) and Muscovy - the state under the rule of the Moscow princes which became a core of the Russian Empire and modern Russia, which was reflected in his notes. Therefore, the identification of Muscovy with Russia in this article is incorrect. According to this logic, the concept of Rus' (or according to the author's reading "Kievan Rus") should be replaced by Ukraine. And everywhere in the text of the article "Russian" regarding "Kievan Rus'" should be replaced by "Ukrainian" (for example, Ukrainian principalities). As we can see, the identification of concepts "for convenience" provokes confusion and factual errors in the future. 3. Accordingly, it is incorrect to write that Herberstein was sent with a mission to Russia. After all, Russia did not exist then. It would be more accurate to write that he was sent to Muscovy (now Russia). The same applies to the "Russian Tsar" or the Russians. Local people and the Tsar of Muscovy were more appropriate.

I would appreciate any help on this case! 2603:7081:4700:3A62:C57B:BC70:34A9:DFF5 (talk) 15:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

It is not very likely that anybody reading this page has any particular knowledge about this subject.

If you look at the history of the article Notes on Muscovite Affairs, you will see that @Mellk reverted your edits with the comment "Unsourced changes" - twice (which means that you were edit warring, by reintroducing them without discussion: see WP:BRD). As far as I can tell, that is what they meant by "disruptive editing": not the content of your edit but the fact that you introduced information without citing sources, and repeated this.

You did the right thing by opening a discussion on the article's talk page; but since you didn't ping any editors, it is quite possible that nobody has seen the discussion.

I have pinged Mellk here; and it might be a good idea to put a note on WT:WikiProject Russia pointing to the discussion on the talk page. ColinFine (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for pinging me. Yes, I reverted the IP editor because they made blanket unsourced changes to the article so that it aligned with a certain nationalistic POV. It is better if they cite sources instead. Mellk (talk) 04:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Article unable to edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews The first line reads: The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים‎, ISO 259-2: Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation: [jehuˈdim]) or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group[12] and nation[13]

The word Jews has nothing to the with the notion of 'nation'.

Can someone fix to delete the phase 'and nation'? Please keep what is written on wiki scholarly. Thank you. 98.110.167.14 (talk) 19:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

The statement is backed up by citations to no fewer than five sources. The article is doing what it is supposed to do, and summarising what reliable sources say.

If you think that it is not accurately representing those sources, or you have other reliable mainstream sources which say something different, please open a discussion on the article's talk page. But I suggest you read carefully the discussions already on that talk page. ColinFine (talk) 21:17, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Your objection seems to assume that there is "the notion of 'nation'", which in turn suggests that such a notion is singular, that there don't also exist alternative notions. But please read and digest the discussion "Jews are.....a nation". -- Hoary (talk) 21:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I need help

I had a notification from Italian Wikipedia, and I clicked a blue button, and now I can’t find it. Can you please recover my notification? Ramekin99 (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I clicked the button accidentally if that helps. I don’t know what the button was called or what it does. Ramekin99 (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Ramekin99 if you get a notification from another Wikipedia you can go to that Wikipedia and check your old notifications. It is not saved in en Wikipedia. The notification may be about an automatic welcome message on your talk page. TSventon (talk) 20:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

August 4

Citing single source for list

Is there a way to clearly indicate that a list was created based on a single source or that the source can be used to verify the contents of the list? If the inline citation is added to the last entry it appears that it only supports that entry and re-citing the source after each entry seems excessive. Perhaps I'm overthinking it and in most cases the list doesn't need a citation per WP:MINREF. I mostly come across this for cast lists. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I usually put a ref for a whole list in the sentence or phrase that introduces the list. DMacks (talk) 02:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Bug

Keyboard used w connect uder to device 2600:1016:B07F:FA23:581:F6D:200F:501B (talk) 05:02, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but your query is incomprehensible (even assuming that 'uder' is a mistype for 'user'). Please describe your problem more clearly. You do not have to use abbreviations and 'telegraphese' – we have plenty of space. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.211.211 (talk) 05:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I will also ask: is your problem to do with Wikipedia? If not, then this is not the right place to ask for help. It is possible that WP:Reference desk/Computing may be able to help you, but you will need to be much clearer about what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

What to do when an editor is potentially connected to the subject of the article?

I'm currently editing an article for an upcoming election and I believe one of the other contributors is potentially connected to one of the candidates, or even is the candidate himself. This would violate WP:AUTO and WP:ADVOCACY. What do I do in this situation? Not Wlwtn (talk) 06:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

That is a matter to discuss at the conflict of interest noticeboard- unless it involves off wiki or private information that cannot be posted on wiki, in which case see the instructions provided on the conflict of interest noticeboard on how your information can be reviewed. 331dot (talk) 07:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I will move this discussion there. Thanks Not Wlwtn (talk) 08:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Doccia porcelain (rename)

Our article for Doccia porcelain should be named more aptly. The current name is not particularly helpful. Apparently the entity became "Richard-Ginori" in the late 1800s, and is now called "Ginori 1735" (following a more recent rebranding by the current owner). The company's registered name appears to be "Richard Ginori s.r.l." (no hyphen), however Italian wikipedia has it as Richard-Ginori (with hyphen). Of the three (Richard-Ginori, Richard Ginori, Ginori 1735), which should be used? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

As always, the answer is in COMMONNAME - use the name the majority of reliable sources use. Note that this is not necessarily the "official name". ColinFine (talk) 08:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

This one is less obvious. "Richard-Ginori" seems to be the logical name choice – however, complicating matters further, we have two entities on wikidata: Ginori 1735 (Q48800364) and Doccia porcelain (Q1061931). Also, our en:wiki article is the only one with a redirect, as some of the other language wikis have separate articles for each (perhaps this is path to follow here too). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Please see Talk page of Doccia porcelain article for further discussion. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

dark mode hyperlink color has insufficient contrast

I love dark mode and use something like it while reading books on screen, however Wikipedia text has many hyperlinks and the light blue color is insufficiently bright to enable smooth reading of the aggregate text... Please institute less white text or brighter link coloration. or a combination of both. 142.189.235.171 (talk) 11:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Generally, people who implement the user interface will not necessarily look here. WP:VPT is a better place for such questions. ColinFine (talk) 17:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Possibly a silly question, but have you tried increasing the brightness setting of your monitor/display? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.211.211 (talk) 21:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

How to unhide a hidden file/folder to nominate an article for A-class review

I have nominated several articles for A-class reviews, but of late I’ve been spinning my wheels trying to nominate SPARS for an A-Class review. The problem: I'm unable to unhide the hidden file/folder or drop-box in WikiProject banner shell|class=GA|1= so I can add the required nomination information. I have an iMac/Apple desktop computer with a Macintosh hard drive. I've looked at a lot of information on the subject, but none of it provides how-to information in a sequential, step-by-step manner. Can someone throw me a lifeline? Pendright (talk) 22:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pendright It may be me, however I am having trouble understanding your request. I suspect you may be standing too close to the problem you see, and may benefit from taking a pace back and describing it so that anyone reading it can understand it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

On Talk:SPARS I can click "show" at "Military history" to see "Additional information" and then click "show" there to see "This article is currently undergoing an A-Class review." Are you saying this doesn't work for you? You can still create Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SPARS. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks for jumping in! On my SPARS talk page, there is no visable "show" to click on. What am I missing? Pendright (talk) 01:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

At the very bottom of the page you'll see a blue link that says "Desktop view"..... This will allow you to see banners that are not seen in mobile view...... beware this may look awkward to you on your phone. Moxy🍁 01:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Moxy: Thanks! As mentioned above, I use a iMac computer. In any case–in audit mode–there are many blue links at the bottom of the SPARS talk page but none fit the description of Desktop view. I look forward to a reply. Pendright (talk) 04:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pendright: You are already in Desktop so you have a "Mobile view" link instead. Mobile has a "Learn more about this page" link to display WikiProject banners. Does that work for you? In Desktop, do you see the text "Military history"? Do you see the text "Additional information" below it? If there is no visible "show" then try hovering your mouse to the right of those texts near the right side of the box and see if there is something you can click anyway. Does it work if you preview the page with only {{WikiProject Military history|A-Class=current}}? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Collapsing Template:Infobox nutritional value

Hello! At Template_talk:Infobox_nutritional_value#Needs_to_be_collapsible, multiple people including myself have noted that the template often contains so much information that it takes up an inordinate amount of space on pages that call it. See, for example, Red cabbage#Culinary, where this template pushes other contents to the bottom of the page and creates excess text-free whitespace there. I asked about this at Template_talk:Infobox#Collapsibility?, and the responses indicated that collapsing subsections would be an option. However, I cannot figure out how to implement this at Template:Infobox nutritional value—is someone able to help me with this? Thank you! —Kittycataclysm (talk) 23:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Red cabbage has too many images. I have used {{stack}} to prevent images to the left from being pushed down.[1] It eliminates some whitespace from before but the result is still not good. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

August 5

Obligations to comply with PROD contested by p-blocked editor

Talk:Vásquez_House If a P-blocked editor who has been barred from editing in mainspace asks to have the PROD tag removed, am I required by guideline to comply with their request? The concern is at Talk:Vásquez_House Graywalls (talk) 07:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:DEPROD mentions a tag may be restored if removed by a banned user or blocked user evading a block. I take that to imply that enforcing sanctions overrides the principle that PRODs must only be used when no opposition is expected, and thus you don't have to remove your PROD if you don't want to. But others may disagree. There does not appear to be any explicit guidance either way. – Teratix ₵ 10:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I placed the PROD. The requestor in question is blocked from directly editing main space and requested by request edit to DEPROD it. Given he's given step-by-step on how to do it, I feel like he's looking for inexperienced editor who isn't aware of the totality of situation to come along and just do it. Graywalls (talk) 16:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Please remove

Please remove or correct my birth year. Eva Schernhammer (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Remove from where? Wikipedia has no Eva Schernhammer biography. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Schernhammer Eva Schernhammer (talk) 11:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

That is the German Wikipedia. You will need to contact them. This is the English Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

They have a help page at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

undo edit

Hello,

I made an edit to a page without setting up an account first. Then I realized the risk. Is there a way to undo my action?

thanks!

Rquillian (talk) 13:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rquillian, if you'd like your IP address hidden from the edit history, you can contact WP:OVERSIGHT via one of the methods mentioned on that page. That's as much as can be done. 57.140.16.8 (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

All my edits are being reverting by the same two users

As above really. It’s becoming really annoying as you can imagine. They seem to be saying they think I am another user and that’s why they are reverting my edits apparently. How do I ask for moderator intervention to put a stop to them please? Thanks. 2.96.227.72 (talk) 15:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:BE by persistent sockpuppet. Always claims to be innocent of why he/she is getting reverted - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Politialguru 10mmsocket (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I do not understand why the above user and his friend are that targeting me, given I am not the user they are linking to. I will no longer engage with them. Please could this persisting reverting of my edits be looked at by moderators? I don’t want the users targeting me banned, but they do need to be stopped from behaving like this. Thanks again. 2.96.227.72 (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

All set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Table moved to bottom of the page

Hi, I was updating the past seasons table under the past seasons tab on the Risborough Rangers FC page. Even though the editing says that the table is under the past seasons tab, when published it isn't so gets moved to the bottom of the page. I am unable to work out what I've done to make this happen. The Relentless Ranger (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Somebody fixed it by closing the table.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Super, thanks The Relentless Ranger (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Julius Perlis

Reference help requested. A bot sent me here.

Thanks, Nayyn (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

The message says that you haven't given a title for the website. Going to http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com/articles/Chess%20players%20who%20died%20young.htm, I can see that there is no obvious title: I suppose the title is "Chess players who died young". But I see absolutely no reason to regard that as a reliable source, and so it should not be cited at all, for any article. ColinFine (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

The title of the page is "Chess players who died young", but the name of the site is Bill Wall's Chess Page (one can often determine the name of a site by going to what's before the first backslash after http:// in the page's URL—in this case, http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com). I agree, though, that it doesn't appear to be a reliable source per WP:RSSELF. Deor (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Is there a way to see the "Compare versions" view in the editor before submitting?

With long articles with detail-oriented content (tables of data that are easier to download, edit locally, then re-upload), I find I'm submitting, checking revision changes, then going back to correct punctuation and spelling changes. Is there a way to see the version comparison view on my pending submission? Anonymouse914 (talk) 19:04, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Anonymouse914, if you're using the source editor, you should see a "Show changes" button. If you're using the visual editor, after hitting "Publish changes..." a new dialogue will pop up with a "Review your changes" button. – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 20:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Exactly what I was looking for; thank you! Anonymouse914 (talk) 21:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Problem with search function

When I entered the term "rutamarin" in the "Search Wikipedia" box, the search function returned at least 500 hits, first stating that no page for this term exists. The first hit is legitimate, but all the remaining hits are to the same text, and that text doesn't appear in any of the referenced pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=rutamarin&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1). My request is that this search be modified so that only the first hit occurs, and with none of the remaining hits being returned. As a pure guess, I suspect that this result is produced by a bug in the search function which may well cause inappropriate results to be returned from searches of other terms, possibly ones like "rutamarin" that lack their own article pages. Mitality (talk) 19:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mitality: The term really is on all those pages. It is inside the "TRP channel modulators" box at the bottom of the page. This box is collapsed by default. The search function cannot know how useful/not useful this is to any particular user. -Arch dude (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your perfect and super-fast reply! Remarkably, rutamarin is given as BOTH a TRP M activator AND blocker! Pleiotropy? Experimental error? Seems as though rutamarin is just begging to have an article created for it. Mitality (talk) 20:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mitality: You can omit the template-generated results with the search insource:rutamarin which finds four articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

August 6

Removing something

I need to remove something from my Wikipedia page please NatureOfScience (talk) 03:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

What page are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)